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Re: (?) Standards set for registering Net domain names
- To: Dean Robb <pceasy@NORFOLK.INFI.NET>
- Subject: Re: (?) Standards set for registering Net domain names
- From: jeff Williams <email@example.com>
- Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:20:39 +0000
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Dean and all,
Mercy sakes, we and you and Bob all agreeing! I shall mark this
on my calendar!!!! WOW!
(See below your comments Dean for more of ours)
Dean Robb wrote:
> At 20:28 3/8/99 -0500, Bob Allisat wrote:
> >http://www.sjmercury.com/breaking/docs/057286.htm ...
> >> The initial accreditation guidelines called for applicants to
> >> have $100,000 in liquid capital, $500,000 in liability insurance,
> >> a proven computer infrastructure and at least five employees.
> >> Esther Dyson, interim chairwoman of the group's board, said that
> >> in relaxing the guidelines the board would allow exceptions to
> >> some of the standards.
> > And how does any non-profit group, individual,
> > small business or charity fit into this picture?
> > Answer: they don't. Domain Name Registries like
> > our embrionic Free Community Network are entirely
> > shut out of this plan. Also... what is an interim
> > Board doing setting policies with potentially such
> > wide ranging effects? Who elected them, where are
> > the members, what accountability or records exist
> > for these decisions? In order: no-one elected these
> > people, there is no membership, no accountability
> > and all decisions are made in secret. Sounds like
> > a recipe for Olympian stature disaster to me...
> Somebody call CNN....Mr. Allistat and I agree!
> These guidelines are discriminatory and would (IANAL) survive a legal
I think you mean that these guidelines (ICANN's Accreditation Guidelines)
Would not survive a legal challenge, don't you Dean?
> Who's to say that I can't run a perfectly good registration
> service with 3 employees?
No one should be. In fact we are working on a easy solution to that
problem. Stay tuned, or post to me privately in a few days...
> Do these employees have to know anything, or can I have myself and 4 dock
> workers to qualify?
> Why do I have to have a huge amount of cash ("liquid capital") sitting
In short you don't and most likely should not, as a potential small
business, having capitol that is not working capitol (Cash) is a very
unwise idea, and we agree that this ICANN requirement in their
"Accreditation Guidelines" is onerous indeed, as I posted on earlier.
> How many small businesses have a hundred grand gathering dust? What about
> non-US companies?
Very few! And if they do, they are not managing their finances very
> Do they have to have the equivilant of $100k at any
> certain point in time or are they subject to the whims of the international
> currency exchange rates?
Very good question Dean!!! >;) Especially given the advent of the EURO!
This illustrates the short sightedness of the ICANN "Accreditation Guidelines".
But again, we [INEGroup] warned of this some months ago now as well...
> What about the "proven computer infrastructure"? What qualifies?
Good question(s) as well., It appears that this will be arbitrarily
by the ICANN board?? <Shrug> Go figure!
> I can
> demonstrate that my system (including modem) have not suffered a serious
> crash in 2 years...is that "proven computer infrastructure"? Proven to
Again good points here as well.
> Plainly put, these "guidelines" are bullshit. Intended to ensure that
> already-established "players" are the only qualified applicants.
It does have that appearance, doesn't it?
> The question I have is what can we do? NTIA seems particularly
> unresponsive to anyone's complaints about ICANN'S actions/plans/goals.
> What's required, sitting down with Vice President Gore and begging for him
> to do something? It's all well and good for us to bitch, but what can we
> realistically do to stop ICANN?
There is plenty! Post to me privately on this later.
> "Small minds can only contemplate small ideas".....Unknown
> Dean Robb
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