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Re: [IFWP] Re: Registrar Constituency meeting - Berlin
Esther and all,
Is there some reason why cannot/should not organize online should they
so choose or that ICANN has a problem with? If so, why?
Esther Dyson wrote:
> The rooms are open. Then either the constituencies self-organize, and the
> Initial Board recognizes them, or certain constituencies will be missing in
> the initial DNSO. At that point, the constituencies can determine who
> qulaifies as a member, but those criteria need to be justifiable in light of
> the purpose/nature of the constituency.
> esther Dyson
> At 12:48 PM 21/05/99 +0200, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> >On Fri, 21 May 1999, Amadeu Abril i Abril wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> The Registrar (proto)Consituency will be meting next Tuesday 24 from
> 8:45am to
> >> 12:00 (local Berln time) at the Adlon Hotel, Linden Rooom (Lindenzimmer).
> >> We will be discussing the Consituency charter and strategy, as wel as other
> >> vusiness of tierest.
> >> Hope to see interested arites there.
> >> Amadeu
> >> PS: as yu know, current proposal defines inital consituency members as
> >> ICANN-accredited registrars only. Ohter wouldbe members, and among them
> >> ccTLD-only, non-ICANN-accredited registrars are welcome on an observer,
> >> non-voting basis, at least for the moemnt being, even if thsi is one of the
> >> issues that will be discussed there.
> >I was going to write that this is a typical Amadeu, a most shameless
> >attempt at capturing the constituency, but I shall leave it to Ms Dyson by
> >way of a message forwarded to the IFWP list which makes it very clear that
> >*ANYONE* can sit in *ANY* room *AND* vote on *ANYTHING*.
> >In other words, if I can manage to get my grand aunt (quite hard of
> >hearing and has no idea what the Internet is) to come there and raiser her
> >hands against any proposal advanced by Amadeu, there is not a thing in the
> >world he can do about it, other then voting in favour.
> >I do not agree with this, personally, as commercial domain holders have
> >noting to do in a non commercial domain constituency, and in particular do
> >lobbyist fronts for commerce such as ISOC and ETSI have NOTHING to do
> >there, nor should Registries have any business in the Registrar
> >constituency and so on. And Jeff the Man and Willie the Whiner should be
> >sent out to the playground where they belong. If they turned up. If they
> >But who will make these decisions?
> >So we really only have one choice, let everyone in everywhere, but only
> >against credentials issued by the event organizers, which in turn must do
> >that only against proof of identity.
> >Then all votes must be recorded against the names so when the courts
> >eventually sort it out, there will be less chaos.
> >In fact this is great stuff, as all the work that has been put into
> >defining constituencies over the last two years has just been declared
> >null and void with the stroke of a feather by the esteemend Ms Shaffer Van
> >Houveling and Ms Dyson, in favour of a free for all!
> >Boy, do I am sorry I can't be there :-)-O
> >greetings, el
> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >From: Esther Dyson <email@example.com>
> >Reply-To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 04:45:41 -0400
> >Subject: Re: [IFWP] Re: Credentials for attendance at the NCDNHC
> >organizational meeting $
> >To: email@example.com
> >It applies to all the constituencies, and concerns who may enter the room.
> >Then we hope the people in the room will self-organize and come up with
> >reasonable criteria for their group. but each constituency =building
> >effort must start with an open room.
> >At 12:56 AM 21/05/99 -0400, Michael Sondow wrote:
> >>Molly Shaffer Van Houweling a crit:
> >>> PLEASE NOTE:
> >>> ICANN has reserved the room referred to below for the use of anyone who is
> >>> interested in discussing the formation of the Non-commercial Domain Name
> >>> Holders Constituency. The room will be open to the public without
> >Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse\ / Swakopmund State Hospital
> ><el@lisse.NA> * | Resident Medical Officer
> >Private Bag 5004 \ / +264 81 1246733 (c) 64 461005(h) 461004(f)
> >Swakopmund, Namibia ;____/ Domain Coordinator for NA-DOM (el108)
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