Re: The Updated "Enrolled Organizations List" of NCDNHC from 7.1. to 7.31.

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Vany and all,

Vany Martinez wrote:

Jeff:

In many countries there's no legal term for Non-Commercial.

  This is true.  But not in most countries.
>  
> Even the religious and charity organizations have to register here
> in
> Panama (for example) as Non-profit.
  That is because they occasionally engage in Commercial activity
of some sort, as I understand it from the US consulate office.

 

I think you want that all organazitaions registered as Non-Profit
be not admited in NCDNHC, even those ones that cannot have another
legal status for the only reason that in such countries doesn't exists
another status legally.

  No, I would like to see that all Constituencies be distinct in as
much as
possible with their constituents.  Some organizations or entities
do not
specifically qualify as NON-COMMERCIAL.  As such they either
belong
in some other Constituency or a NON-PROFIT Constituency needs
to be set up, and quickly.

 

By the way, the term NON-PROFIT is a very general term that implies that
activities of an organization registered under such legal term are
not making for profit activities.

  That is exactly right!  >;)  However it does not imply
that they
are NON-COMMERCIAL.  Some would be, NON-COMMERCIAL,
others would not be.
> There will be ocassions where
> organizations registered under NON-PROFIT are encouraging for profit
> interests...but in the most of the cases, NON-PROFIT is sinonym of
> NON-COMMERCIAL.
  Yes in some cases, you are correct that some NON-PROFIT entities
only encourage profit interests on a commercial basis.  However
the term
NON-PROFIT is defiantly NOT, legally speaking, a synonym for
NON-COMMERCIAL.

 

Best Regards
Vany
:-)

>  To answer your question directly, yes.  Legally, if you are not registered
>as a NON-COMMERCIAL entity specifically in most countries legal
>definition and in compliance with US law as well, and rather are legally
>defined as NON-PROFIT, than that entity is by it's own admission,
>engaged in some commercial activity.
>
>Horacio T. Cadiz wrote:
>
>> From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
>>
>> >   It may be that ENRED WAS a [SEMI] Academic in nature.
>> However
>> > whether it WAS or is, for that matter is not really material of
>> > substantive.
>> > The FACT that it is legally listed as NON-PROFIT, and therefore
>> > connected
>> > or conducting commercial internet activities, disqualifies it
>> as a valid
>>
>>     I don't see the connection.  Does it follow that
>> if an organization is NON-PROFIT, it is a commercial?
>>
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