Re: [IFWP] [Fwd: Generalisimo Sola (DNSO) rebuffed.. was: [ga] Santiago DNSO GA Chair]

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Brian and all,

  I believe that I have made a similar sort of suggestion to the ICANN
(Initial?) Interim Board before.  However I am extremely doubtful that
such a event is likely to take place given the errant behavior of that
very ICANN (Initial?) Interim Board itself, nor, if done, would I trust
that it would be sufficient.

Brian C. Hollingsworth wrote:

> Jeff and Everyone,
>
>   Mr. Sola's demeanor and attitude has not gone unnoticed by many in the
> EU and EC of late.  Some private discussions that I have had have
> expressed much dismay in his attitude and deliberance of dictating
> "Edicts" as if he were some sort of "Royal Line".  I tend to agree
> with Jeff's and I have noticed of late, others characterization of
> Mr. Sola a "Generalisimo", as likely appropriate.  It may be time for
> the
> ICANN Interim Board to take this fellow aside and council him
> sternly....
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Mark and all,
> >
> >   Excellent rebuff of the Generalisimo.
> >
> >   I believe though I do not know that Generalisimo Sola has either
> > not read the ICANN Bylaws and Berlin resolutions at all of closely
> > enough,
> > or he is attempting to misstate and there fore misuse those resolutions
> > and/or bylaws.  I have tried to point this out along with many others
> > to the Generalisimo, and it seems that he is unable to grasp the
> > reality of the facts they currently exist...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > Contact Number:  972-447-1894
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> >
> >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Santiago DNSO GA Chair
> > Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:18:36 -0700
> > From: "Mark C. Langston" <skritch@home.com>
> > To: ga@dnso.org
> >
> > On 3 August 1999, Javier SOLA <javier@aui.es> wrote:
> > >
> > >Please show some respect for the bylaws and the consensus that they
> > >represent. They are the working tool that we have now. It has taken a very
> > >long time to reach this agreement. It is very bad policy to start playing
> > >with them for the benefit of a specific group, you might get the other
> > >groups that have reached consensus on the bylaws very annoyed.
> >
> > Okay!  In that case, Mr. Sola, please declare all WG activity null and
> > void, because none of the WGs meet the following criteria, taken
> > directly from the ICANN bylaws, which you tout so strongly:
> >
> >   Section 2:  THE NAMES COUNCIL
> >
> >   (b) The NC is responsible for the management of the consensus building
> >   process of the DNSO.  It shall adopt such procedures and policies as
> >   it sees fit to carry out that responsibility, including the
> >   designation of such research or drafting committees, working groups
> >   and other bodies of the GA as it determines are appropriate to carry
> >   out the substantive work of the DNSO.  Such bodies shall include at
> >   least one representative nominated by each recognized Constituency,
> >   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >   and shall provide appropriate means, as determined by the NC, for
> >   input and such participation as is practicable under the circumstances
> >   by other interested parties.  Any reports or recommendations presented
> >   to the NC by such bodies shall be posted on a web site accessible by
> >   the public for public review and comment; absent clear justification,
> >   which shall be publicly stated at the time of any action, the NC shall
> >   not act on any report or recommendation until a reasonable time for
> >   public comment has passed and the NC has reviewed and evaluated all
> >   public comments received. The NC is responsible for ensuring that all
> >   responsible views have been heard and considered prior to a decision
> >   by the NC.
> >
> > No WG is composed of at laest one representative nominated by each
> > recognized Constituency.
> >
> > Furthermore, there is doubt as to whether there exist "recognized"
> > Constituencies:
> >
> >   ICANN Resolutions, May 27, 1999:
> >
> >   Resolution on DNSO Constituencies
> >
> >   The Board discussed the applications received to date from groups
> >   desiring to form Constituencies of the Domain Names Supporting
> >   Organization. After consideration, the Board unanimously adopted the
> >   following resolutions.
> >
> >   RESOLVED, that the following Constituencies (as defined in Article
> >   VI-B of the Bylaws) are provisionally recognized until the annual
> >                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >   meeting of the Board in 1999,
> >   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >                                 to operate in accordance with the
> >   proposals received by the Corporation and ordered attached to these
> >   minutes:
> >
> >        ccTLD registries
> >        Commercial and business entities
> >        gTLD registries
> >        Intellectual property
> >        ISPs and connectivity providers
> >        Registrars
> >
> >   FURTHER RESOLVED, that the President of the Corporation is directed to
> >   work with the Constituencies to amend their proposals to address
> >   deficiencies noted by the Board, which amended proposals must include
> >   a commitment of the submitting Constituency to hold a new election of
> >   Names Council representatives promptly following the approval by the
> >   Board of such amended proposal.
> >
> >   FURTHER RESOLVED, that, when such proposals are so amended, the Board
> >   should examine such proposals to determine whether the deficiencies
> >   have been satisfactorily addressed and whether to extend the
> >   recognition today made.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> --
> Brian C. Hollingsworth
> Sr. Legal Advisor, International House of Justice Internet
> Communications  Affairs and Policy
> Advisory council for Public Affairs and Internet Policy, European
> Union

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208