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Re: IPC
- To: Jason Vogel <jasonvogel@ibm.net>, ICANN Comments <Comments@icann.org>
- Subject: Re: IPC
- From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
- Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:39:45 +0100
- CC: Mikki Barry <ooblick@netpolicy.com>, "Rosen, Stuart" <srosen@bmi.com>, "'Stewart, Michael D.'" <MDStewart@LadasParry.com>, Mljenkins@rbd-law.com, gregoryh@staff.abanet.org, mkirk@aipla.org, lschroeder@aipla.org, mark@hellman.org, smosenkis@ascap.com, acollins@ajpark.co.nz, law@sbm.com.ar, felipe@claro.cl, ntyree@publishers.org, remingmj@dbr.com, bwfitzgerald@swidlaw.com, donm@bsa.org, eric.fingerhut@shawpittman.com, swadyka@slavitgill.com, martys@interport.net, william@dso.net, ecta@ecta.org, jorange@orpat.com, sonn@sonn.at, nils.bortloff@ifpi.org, wmcgrath@dmmlaw.com, mheltzer@inta.org, cchicoine@bspmlaw.com, nwood@netsearchers.co.uk, "tshapiro@mpaa.org" <tshapiro@mpaa.org>, tcohen@mpaa.org, hschwartz@fishneave.com, jmd@ogk.com, jwhitehead@riaa.com, mflynn@siia.net, dduncan@siia.net, jmcgivern@ascap.com, howard@netnames.com, russ@russ-smith.com, jcohen@shapirocohen.com, vcarrington@shpirocohen.com, "scaf@idealaw.com" <scaf@idealaw.com>, metalitz@iipa.com, tatham@dial.pipex.com, isler.pedrazzini@spectraweb.ch, "Esther (The clueless) Dyson" <edyson@edventure.com>, "Esther Dyson (ICANN ADDRESS)" <edyson@icann.org>
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jason Mikki and all,
Jason, you and Mikki make a very goo point here which I believe
is just one instance why the "Constituency Model" for the DNSO
doesn't work and doesn't make sense.
Jason Vogel wrote:
> I am curious to know the position of the RIAA and MPA/MPAA on the
> proportional representation proposal. As the RIAA has about 500 members,
> see http://www.riaa.com/about/ab_faq.htm##_top, and the MPA apparently has
> only 7 members, see http://www.mpaa.org/jack/index.htm, these organizations
> would have greatly attenuated voting power compared to the bar associations
> and international organizations, which have thousands of members. Indeed,
> if I recall correctly from the NY meeting, Mr. Fingerhut indicated that the
> D.C. Bar Association IP Section alone has a far broader membership than
> either the RIAA or MPA.
>
> I don't have a better alternative to offer, but the proportional
> representation proposal seems unworkable.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mikki Barry [mailto:ooblick@netpolicy.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 8:14 PM
> > To: Rosen, Stuart
> > Cc: 'Stewart, Michael D.'; 'Mljenkins@rbd-law.com';
> > 'gregoryh@staff.abanet.org'; 'mkirk@aipla.org'; 'lschroeder@aipla.org';
> > 'mark@hellman.org'; 'smosenkis@ascap.com'; 'acollins@ajpark.co.nz';
> > 'law@sbm.com.ar'; 'felipe@claro.cl'; 'ntyree@publishers.org'; Rosen,
> > Stuart; 'remingmj@dbr.com'; 'bwfitzgerald@swidlaw.com'; 'donm@bsa.org';
> > 'eric.fingerhut@shawpittman.com'; 'swadyka@slavitgill.com';
> > 'martys@interport.net'; 'william@dso.net'; 'jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com';
> > 'ecta@ecta.org'; 'jorange@orpat.com'; 'sonn@sonn.at';
> > 'nils.bortloff@ifpi.org'; 'wmcgrath@dmmlaw.com'; 'mheltzer@inta.org';
> > 'cchicoine@bspmlaw.com'; 'nwood@netsearchers.co.uk';
> > 'tshapiro@mpaa.org'; 'tcohen@mpaa.org'; 'hschwartz@fishneave.com';
> > 'jmd@ogk.com'; 'jwhitehead@riaa.com'; 'mflynn@siia.net';
> > 'dduncan@siia.net'; 'jmcgivern@ascap.com'; 'howard@netnames.com';
> > 'russ@russ-smith.com'; 'jasonvogel@ibm.net'; 'jcohen@shapirocohen.com';
> > 'vcarrington@shpirocohen.com'; 'scaf@idealaw.com'; 'metalitz@iipa.com';
> > 'tatham@dial.pipex.com'; 'isler.pedrazzini@spectraweb.ch'
> > Subject: RE: IPC
> >
> >
> > At 2:25 PM -0400 8/13/99, Rosen, Stuart wrote:
> > >Dr. Kaufman's proposal for proportional representation would
> > base votes on
> > >"dues paid" members of each organization. This approach doesn't give
> > >appropriate weight to BMI's 200,000 affiliated writers, composers and
> > >publishers, none of whom pay dues to BMI. I believe the same applies to
> > >ASCAP and perhaps other organizations.
> > >
> > >We may submit further comments on the idea of proportional
> > representation;
> > >however, I just wanted to indicate a problem that immediately
> > came to mind.
> >
> > It would also hamstring organizations like DNRC that is not a membership
> > organization as such. Weighted voting essentially removes any meaningful
> > participation that DNRC may have in this process.
> >
> >
> >
Regards,
--
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