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- Subject: Re: [IFWP] Esther live (NOW)- Esthers answer on IPv6, solving problems???
- From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:54:13 +0100
- CC: "Esther (The clueless) Dyson" <edyson@edventure.com>,Domain policy <DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET>
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Has anyone seen this:
http://www.planetit.com/techcenters/docs/advanced_ip_services/opinion/PIT19990816S0013
in respect to Esthers (Cluless) answer to the question from: LaRell from [143.166.99.43], at 4:29pm ET
Have there been any forward advances toward the
problem of running out of IP addresses to match up to
"Domain Names"?Esther Dyson at 4:30pm ET
" There's going to be a whole new addressing system called
IPv6 (vs. the current IPv4) that will solve that problem in
spades. Our Protocol Supporting Organization and Address
suppporting organization are shepherding that process."It seems to me that Esther is a bit out of touch with current reality on internet
technical issues...
Richard J. Sexton wrote:
this is long, whole log:Regards,he Internet Corporation for
Assigned Names and Numbers,
ICANN, is meeting this week in
Santiago, Chile. This non-profit
organization was tapped by the
U.S. Commerce Department to
take over administration of the
Internet's domain name system
the mechanism that assigns
the all-important dot-com names to Internet sites
around the world.
ICANN and its chairperson, technology consultant
Esther Dyson, have come under fire for handling this
responsibility. Critics have called ICANN
heavy-handed and unresponsive to concerns about
the lack of self-governance on the Internet.
Dyson will be joining ABCNEWS.com readers on
Thursday, Aug. 26 at 4 p.m. ET to answer questions
about ICANN and its latest actions from the Santiago
meeting. Post your questions now, and come back to
see what Dyson has to say.Esther Dyson at 3:50pm ET
Hi! I'm here. will stand by until 4. I have 3.48 right
now.
greetings from Santiago!Moderator at 3:52pm ET
Hello, Esther, glad you could make it! We'll be getting
started right at 4 p.m. ET, so if there's anyone who
hasn't
posted a question, go right ahead!Moderator at 4:02pm ET
Well, why don't we get started. Esther Dyson, interim
chairperson of ICANN, thank you for joining us from
ICANN's meeting in Santiago, Chile. Before we start
posting questions, why don't you give us a quick run down
about what you and ICANN have been doing these past
few days?Esther Dyson at 4:03pm ET
FWIW, I'm sitting here in Santiago, Chile, in the
university
auditorim where we have been holding our meetings. RIght
now I am sitting in on a meeting of ICANN's "names
council" (which fortunately I am not running!, linked up
over an Ethernet hookup to the Net. Subliminal message:
The rest of the world is getting wired!Esther Dyson at 4:06pm ET
We held our first open board meeting this morning. Some
of
the decisions made (details at www.icann.org) include the
adoption/implementation of a Uniform Dispute Resolution
Policy to cover purportedly abusive registrations of
domain
names. We also adopted an independent review panel (for
disputes concerning *our* bylaws), and took steps towards
establishing our membership structure.Peter Vos from [209.193.169.164] at 4:06pm ET
What is the current status on opening up the top level
domains to include the proposed .web, .store, .firm,
tlds?Is there a time line associated with this or not?
TIA
Esther Dyson at 4:07pm ET
basically, we are now (finally) working on substantive
policies, rather than designing our own navel. And
overall,
the atmosphere here has been much more constructive and
friendly than in the past, despite what yo might read in
the
(other) press.Esther Dyson at 4:10pm ET
TH etimeline for new domain names is that ICANN's
Domain Name Supporting Organization has a working
group to consider this issue - whether, why, how, how
many, when...... It won't happen this year, I assume,
because our next board meeting - when we could consider
this issue after recommendations and public comment - is
in
November.Esther Dyson at 4:11pm ET
PS - is that Peter Vos from Austria (whom I know)? Or
some other Peter Vos?darshan from [204.202.132.11], at 4:11pm ET
Whence does ICANN draw its authority? In other words,
who made you guys the domain name czars?Esther Dyson at 4:14pm ET
Our authority comes from the Net itself. That's why our
proceedings sometimes look fractious! We need to foster a
consensus, then adopt policies reflecting that consensus,
and then enforce those policies through contracts, such
as
the contracts we currenlty have with the new .com
registrars. (Separately, we have some delegated authority
via contracts with the US government, mostly concerning
opening up the .com/.net/.org registry to competition
from
additional registrars (the incumbent is Network
Solutions).Moderator at 4:15pm ET
No word yet from Peter...so we'll continue.adrian stokes from [204.202.132.11], at 4:16pm ET
What's happened in Santiago to make the whole
domain-name policy system more open and democratic?Esther Dyson at 4:18pm ET
AMong other things, we accepted the Non-Commercial
DOmain Name Holders constituency of the DNS). (SOrry
for all the acronyms!) ANd we held both an open meeting
*with* the public -lots of comments, suggestions, mostly
constructve criticism, moves towards consensus - and also
our long-awaited first open board meeting, with the
public
and press invited to watch -either in person or over the
Web. It went well!Jim Hisle from [134.193.81.47], at 4:19pm ET
What are ICANN's plans for the individual holders of
Internet addresses? I have an address setup in the
process
of a small business development. I am concerned that my
selected name might be challenged internationally and I
would be at a great disadvantage. My domain name
currently is not trademarked in the US, but does have
some
similar matches internationally.Jim
Esther Dyson at 4:20pm ET
We also pledged to include the views and interests of
individuals and non-commercial orgs in drafting the
precise
wording of the dispute- resolution policy.Esther Dyson at 4:24pm ET
What do you mean by "matches"? Basically, if you have
registered the name already, and you have some legitimate
claim to it - for example, it's your own name or the name
you ahve been doing business under - the policy would
support your claim to it against that of anyone coming
along
later. (The lawyer sitting next to me says I should
stress
that this is not professional advice and you should
consult
your own counsel!)Dan from [207.107.50.21], at 4:25pm ET
How do you measure consensus?
hard members or do you have more than
3000 people that agree with ICANN?Esther Dyson at 4:28pm ET
That's one of the challenges. We consider the messages
we get over the Net (after substantial posting), as well
as
what people at our meetings say. We also check that a
variety of points of view are represented. That is, you
can't
go to a meeting of business people and get a consensus
there and use that, just as you can't base a judgment of
consensus on just a US community - since the Net operates
worldwide. There's a fair amount of judgement involved.
And most people don't "agree with ICANN" about
everything; we do most things issue by issue.....LaRell from [143.166.99.43], at 4:29pm ET
Have there been any forward advances toward the
problem of running out of IP addresses to match up to
"Domain Names"?Esther Dyson at 4:30pm ET
There's going to be a whole new addressing system called
IPv6 (vs. teh current IPv4) that will solve that problem
in
spades. Our Protocol Supporting Organization and Address
suppporting organization are shepherding that process.
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208