[Membership] Re: [IFWP] Re: list Re: The People's Republic of ICANN?

[jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Diane and all,

Diane Cabell wrote:

> I'm still missing the link between a vote (or non-vote) and identification.
> How do you know who is casting the compulsory vote?  And if the voter lies
> about that, how will you prove otherwise.  (Questions I throw perhaps
> illogically under the title of "enforcement.")

  To protect against voter fraud, of which I believe you are referring to
here, there are several checks that can be performed online as well
as a part of a well designed registration process for membership,
which I and others have already detailed out pretty well.  You might
want to review those posts on the membership@icann.org archive.

>
>
> I can see where it might resolve problems of capture.  The idea of being
> obligated to vote in a campaign in which one has no interest might,
> however,  lead to sales of votes or indifferent voting which might be just
> as unauthentic as a captured election.  Interesting possibilities, though.
> Requires some thought.

  Any vote is subject to being bought, this cannot be absolutely eliminated
regardless of what prevention mechanisms might be put in place.

>
>
> Diane Cabell
> MAC
>
> Kerry Miller wrote:
>
> > Diane,
> >
> > > > perhaps the practice of compulsory voting is the
> > > > way to go...
> > >
> > > How ever would this be enforced?
> > >
> >
> >   I should have thought the first question is whether it solves or
> > avoids the problem of fraudulent namebasing (either multiple votes
> > or bogus addresses) which keeps coming up as we try to design
> > toplevel structures and only later looking for their constituencies
> > underneath.
> >
> > Admittedly, the issue of enforcement does seem to go along with
> > that perspective...
> >
> > But perhaps you misunderstand the concept. 'Compulsory' simply
> > means that there is a penalty for failure.
> >
> > ------
> > Greg asked,
> >
> > > What would you do in the case of people who refuse to vote?  If people
> > > disagree with all choices offered, don't they have the right to
> > > abstain?
> >
> >  Whether penalties should be visited in terms of rights to domain
> > names, or cost of registration renewal, or the number of virtual
> > machines one might host is not my concern, but rather whether the
> > missing link in all this discussion isnt simply the use of 'quid pro
> > quo' as a working concept (at *all levels).
> >
> > Do you mean a right to abstain from decision-making, but still
> > capitalize on the service that results? Sure, why not? We could
> > even designate a .kid TLD for them, with its own moot-council
> > (IKANN?), where they could practice getting organized, learn to be
> > responsible, and so on.
> >
> > kerry
>
> --
> Diane Cabell
> cabell@mama-tech.com
> http://www.mama-tech.com
>
> Fausett, Gaeta & Lund, LLP
> Boston, MA
> http://www.fausett.com

Regards,

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