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[Comment-Dnso] Re: NCDNHC Application and Information Form - Another "Sister" organization of the ISOC



Jeff, 

Thanks for your comment.
In our application we wrote:

>>>>>Although we are a local, country based, chapter of a global
association which is already a NCDNHC member, we feel we have good reasons
to partecipate directly in the NCDNHC. If this is explictly barred by
NCDNHC by-laws, or felt not convenient by a large number of other members
of this constituency, please let us know.<<<<<

Our point is that local groups should have a way to partecipate directly to
global Internet governance. 
Any further comment is welcome
Thank Regards mario


At 17.01 26/08/99 +0100, Jeff Williams wrote:
>All,
>
>  It appears that we have yet another of the ISOC "Sister" organizations
>here...  Another attempt at stacking the deck perhaps?
>
>mario chiari wrote:
>
>> X-Lyris-Type: auto-responder
>> From: get-ncdnhc-application@lyris.isoc.org
>> Reply-To: get-ncdnhc-application@lyris.isoc.org
>> To: chiari.hm@flashnet.it
>> Subject: NCDNHC Application and Information Form
>> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:06:46 -0400
>>
>> 1.  What is the name of your Organization?
>>
>> (in italian) Societa' Internet, sezione italiana della Internet Society
>> (Italy Chapter of the Internet Society)
>>
>> 2.   Is the Organization a member of any other constituency in the Domain
>> Name Supporting Organization of ICANN?
>>
>> NO
>>
>> 3.   What is the major domain name of the Organization?
>> isoc.it
>>
>> 4.  Does the Organization have a website and if so, would you provide
the URL?
>> http://www.isoc.it (on construction)
>>
>> B.  Contact information for Representative of Organization
>>
>> 1. What is your name and title with the Organization?
>> mario chiari. Acting President
>>
>> 2.  How can other representatives reach you? (email, telephone, fax
>> appreciated)
>> chiari.hm@flashnet.it,  proposingparty@isoc.it
>>
>> 3.  How is it that you have come to represent the Organization in this
>> Constituency?
>> consensus of members
>>
>> 4.   Are there other representatives from your Organization who will be
>> participating in this Constituency?  Is so, who is authorized to vote on
>> behalf of the Organization?
>> NO (None, until further notice)
>>
>> C.  Purpose of Organization:
>>
>> 1.  What are the Organization's primary activities?
>>
>> See below under C.2. All of our present and future activities are and will
>> be Internet related.
>>
>>      2.  What are the Organization's primary activities on the Internet?
>>
>> >From our Statute. (Articles 5+6+7)
>>
>> Article 5.
>> Development of the Internet
>>
>> 1. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall invite and support Italian experts to take
>> part in the development of Internet protocols and standards in any way the
>> international Internet Community may deem fit.
>> 2. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall undertake any action to ensure that public
>> institutions, private companies and any other body or entity in Italy or
>> the European Community respects and upholds the independence and
>> self-governance of the Internet community.
>> Article 6.
>> Initiatives and Events
>> 1. The "SocietÓ Internet" organises and co-operates in the organisation of
>> activities and events - including but not limited to conventions, seminars
>> and schools, product and technology exhibitions, acquisition, publishing
>> and distribution of information and news, prize givings and competitions -
>> that may be of general interest to the public and that may stimulate to
>> access to, use, development, knowledge and management of the Internet.
>> Article 7.
>> Expression of Opinions
>> 1. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall express informed opinions in public, which
>> may be evaluations, comments, proposals, views, criticisms and
>> disagreements, relating to: events, situations, and practices; to the
>> drafting of treaties, agreements, charters, resolutions or other
>> expressions of international will; to regulations, laws, directives; to
>> decisions and acts both of the executive and of the judiciary bodies; to
>> the development, drafting, adoption and evaluation of standards and
>> protocols; to the development and management of technological,
>> administrative and management infrastructures that may be relevant within
>> Italy or the European Community relating to access to, use, development,
>> knowledge and management of the Internet.
>> Wherever such opinions concern questions involving the European Community,
>> the "SocietÓ Internet" shall seek to have a common view with other Chapters
>> of the Internet Society" within the European Community.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.  Please furnish a statement of how the Organization's purposes and
>> activities conform to the NCDNHC Constituency's goals and membership
>> requirements. This should be a narrative statement which specifically
>> describes the Organization's purposes and activities and may include
>> references to charter or by-law provisions.
>>
>> >From our Statute:
>> Article 2
>> General Principles and Goals
>> 1. The "SocietÓ Internet" shares the same principles, goals and mission as
>> the Internet Society.
>> [see at http://www.iosc.org]
>> 2. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall act mainly within Italy's frontiers where
>> it shall promote the knowledge and use of, and technological, cultural
>> social and economic development of Internet. ......
>> 3. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall defend the right of every individual,
>> association, or social entity to have access to the Internet and shall
>> oppose any discriminatory use or management of the Internet..
>> 4. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall represent the interests and needs of the
>> Italian users of the Internet vis-Ó-vis the international Internet
>> community and shall promote the use of the Italian language on the
Internet.
>> 5. The "SocietÓ Internet" is a non-profit organisation and seeks no
>> commercial benefit. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall express no political views
>> in any political elections be they local, national or European.
>>
>> D. Type of Organization:
>>
>> Please furnish information regarding your Organization's
>> legal status -- is it incorporated (if so, in what jurisdiction) or
>> unincorporated?  If incorporated, doe it have a not-for-profit or
>> non-commercial status?
>>
>> As yet, it is not incorporated. It will be shortly under Italy law as a
>> non-for-profit membership association. (Note: Italian legal terminology is
>> different. We are not very precise here, though essentially correct)
>>
>> E. Size of Organization:
>>
>> The NCDNHC will have two subgroups: one for Large and the
>> other for Small Organizations.  Please indicate the category of membership
>> or employee size. If the Organization has both members and employees,
>> please answer both questions.
>>
>>
>> 1. Are you a membership organization?  If so, does the Organization have
>> under or over 1000 members?  What type of individuals or entities are
>> members of your Organization?
>>
>> Yes. Below 1000. Open to all.
>>
>> 2. If you are a non-member organization, do you have under or over 200
>> employees?
>>
>> N/A
>>
>> F. Conflict of Interest
>>
>> Note: Conflict of Interest may or may not be a bar to joining the NCDNHC.
>> The hope is that by circulating information about our views, backgrounds,
>> and possible conflicts of interests, others in the NCDNHC will have a
>> better idea how to interpret and weigh the ideas that we put forward.
>> 1.  For the Organization:
>> Please furnish a brief statement concerning any possible conflict
>> between the goals of the Constituency and the Organization's purposes,
>> functions or activities.
>> Has the Organization been involved in Internet governance before? Does it
>> have any developed positions that you would like others to know
>> about?  If so, please describe below or provide a URL.
>>
>> No conflit, as far as I may know or understand. No involment.
>>
>> 2.  For the Representative:
>> As individuals, many of us have been involved in Internet governance
>> before.  If you have any positions on Internet governance that you would
>> like others to read about (taken on behalf of this Organization or others
>> or as an individual), please feel free to tell us about them or drop a URL
>>
>> None at this point.
>>
>> G.  Is there anything else you would like to add?
>>
>> Although we are a local, country based, chapter of a global association
>> which is already a NCDNHC member, we feel we have good reasons to
>> partecipate directly in the NCDNHC. If this is explictly barred by NCDNHC
>> by-laws, or felt not convenient by a large number of other members of this
>> constituency, please let us know.
>>
>> H.   To submit this membership form, you must send the above information to
>> NCDNHC-Application@LYRIS.ISOC.ORG.
>>
>>
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>Regards,
>
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