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[Comment-Dnso] Re: NCDNHC Application and Information Form - Another "Sister" organization of the ISOC



Mario and all,

  I too believe that all organizations should be able to participate on an
equal basis.  As that ISOC is already a member of the NCDNHC that
is fulfilled.

mario chiari wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Thanks for your comment.
> In our application we wrote:
>
> >>>>>Although we are a local, country based, chapter of a global
> association which is already a NCDNHC member, we feel we have good reasons
> to partecipate directly in the NCDNHC. If this is explictly barred by
> NCDNHC by-laws, or felt not convenient by a large number of other members
> of this constituency, please let us know.<<<<<
>
> Our point is that local groups should have a way to partecipate directly to
> global Internet governance.
> Any further comment is welcome
> Thank Regards mario
>
> At 17.01 26/08/99 +0100, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >All,
> >
> >  It appears that we have yet another of the ISOC "Sister" organizations
> >here...  Another attempt at stacking the deck perhaps?
> >
> >mario chiari wrote:
> >
> >> X-Lyris-Type: auto-responder
> >> From: get-ncdnhc-application@lyris.isoc.org
> >> Reply-To: get-ncdnhc-application@lyris.isoc.org
> >> To: chiari.hm@flashnet.it
> >> Subject: NCDNHC Application and Information Form
> >> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:06:46 -0400
> >>
> >> 1.  What is the name of your Organization?
> >>
> >> (in italian) Societa' Internet, sezione italiana della Internet Society
> >> (Italy Chapter of the Internet Society)
> >>
> >> 2.   Is the Organization a member of any other constituency in the Domain
> >> Name Supporting Organization of ICANN?
> >>
> >> NO
> >>
> >> 3.   What is the major domain name of the Organization?
> >> isoc.it
> >>
> >> 4.  Does the Organization have a website and if so, would you provide
> the URL?
> >> http://www.isoc.it (on construction)
> >>
> >> B.  Contact information for Representative of Organization
> >>
> >> 1. What is your name and title with the Organization?
> >> mario chiari. Acting President
> >>
> >> 2.  How can other representatives reach you? (email, telephone, fax
> >> appreciated)
> >> chiari.hm@flashnet.it,  proposingparty@isoc.it
> >>
> >> 3.  How is it that you have come to represent the Organization in this
> >> Constituency?
> >> consensus of members
> >>
> >> 4.   Are there other representatives from your Organization who will be
> >> participating in this Constituency?  Is so, who is authorized to vote on
> >> behalf of the Organization?
> >> NO (None, until further notice)
> >>
> >> C.  Purpose of Organization:
> >>
> >> 1.  What are the Organization's primary activities?
> >>
> >> See below under C.2. All of our present and future activities are and will
> >> be Internet related.
> >>
> >>      2.  What are the Organization's primary activities on the Internet?
> >>
> >> >From our Statute. (Articles 5+6+7)
> >>
> >> Article 5.
> >> Development of the Internet
> >>
> >> 1. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall invite and support Italian experts to take
> >> part in the development of Internet protocols and standards in any way the
> >> international Internet Community may deem fit.
> >> 2. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall undertake any action to ensure that public
> >> institutions, private companies and any other body or entity in Italy or
> >> the European Community respects and upholds the independence and
> >> self-governance of the Internet community.
> >> Article 6.
> >> Initiatives and Events
> >> 1. The "SocietÓ Internet" organises and co-operates in the organisation of
> >> activities and events - including but not limited to conventions, seminars
> >> and schools, product and technology exhibitions, acquisition, publishing
> >> and distribution of information and news, prize givings and competitions -
> >> that may be of general interest to the public and that may stimulate to
> >> access to, use, development, knowledge and management of the Internet.
> >> Article 7.
> >> Expression of Opinions
> >> 1. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall express informed opinions in public, which
> >> may be evaluations, comments, proposals, views, criticisms and
> >> disagreements, relating to: events, situations, and practices; to the
> >> drafting of treaties, agreements, charters, resolutions or other
> >> expressions of international will; to regulations, laws, directives; to
> >> decisions and acts both of the executive and of the judiciary bodies; to
> >> the development, drafting, adoption and evaluation of standards and
> >> protocols; to the development and management of technological,
> >> administrative and management infrastructures that may be relevant within
> >> Italy or the European Community relating to access to, use, development,
> >> knowledge and management of the Internet.
> >> Wherever such opinions concern questions involving the European Community,
> >> the "SocietÓ Internet" shall seek to have a common view with other Chapters
> >> of the Internet Society" within the European Community.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 3.  Please furnish a statement of how the Organization's purposes and
> >> activities conform to the NCDNHC Constituency's goals and membership
> >> requirements. This should be a narrative statement which specifically
> >> describes the Organization's purposes and activities and may include
> >> references to charter or by-law provisions.
> >>
> >> >From our Statute:
> >> Article 2
> >> General Principles and Goals
> >> 1. The "SocietÓ Internet" shares the same principles, goals and mission as
> >> the Internet Society.
> >> [see at http://www.iosc.org]
> >> 2. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall act mainly within Italy's frontiers where
> >> it shall promote the knowledge and use of, and technological, cultural
> >> social and economic development of Internet. ......
> >> 3. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall defend the right of every individual,
> >> association, or social entity to have access to the Internet and shall
> >> oppose any discriminatory use or management of the Internet..
> >> 4. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall represent the interests and needs of the
> >> Italian users of the Internet vis-Ó-vis the international Internet
> >> community and shall promote the use of the Italian language on the
> Internet.
> >> 5. The "SocietÓ Internet" is a non-profit organisation and seeks no
> >> commercial benefit. The "SocietÓ Internet" shall express no political views
> >> in any political elections be they local, national or European.
> >>
> >> D. Type of Organization:
> >>
> >> Please furnish information regarding your Organization's
> >> legal status -- is it incorporated (if so, in what jurisdiction) or
> >> unincorporated?  If incorporated, doe it have a not-for-profit or
> >> non-commercial status?
> >>
> >> As yet, it is not incorporated. It will be shortly under Italy law as a
> >> non-for-profit membership association. (Note: Italian legal terminology is
> >> different. We are not very precise here, though essentially correct)
> >>
> >> E. Size of Organization:
> >>
> >> The NCDNHC will have two subgroups: one for Large and the
> >> other for Small Organizations.  Please indicate the category of membership
> >> or employee size. If the Organization has both members and employees,
> >> please answer both questions.
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. Are you a membership organization?  If so, does the Organization have
> >> under or over 1000 members?  What type of individuals or entities are
> >> members of your Organization?
> >>
> >> Yes. Below 1000. Open to all.
> >>
> >> 2. If you are a non-member organization, do you have under or over 200
> >> employees?
> >>
> >> N/A
> >>
> >> F. Conflict of Interest
> >>
> >> Note: Conflict of Interest may or may not be a bar to joining the NCDNHC.
> >> The hope is that by circulating information about our views, backgrounds,
> >> and possible conflicts of interests, others in the NCDNHC will have a
> >> better idea how to interpret and weigh the ideas that we put forward.
> >> 1.  For the Organization:
> >> Please furnish a brief statement concerning any possible conflict
> >> between the goals of the Constituency and the Organization's purposes,
> >> functions or activities.
> >> Has the Organization been involved in Internet governance before? Does it
> >> have any developed positions that you would like others to know
> >> about?  If so, please describe below or provide a URL.
> >>
> >> No conflit, as far as I may know or understand. No involment.
> >>
> >> 2.  For the Representative:
> >> As individuals, many of us have been involved in Internet governance
> >> before.  If you have any positions on Internet governance that you would
> >> like others to read about (taken on behalf of this Organization or others
> >> or as an individual), please feel free to tell us about them or drop a URL
> >>
> >> None at this point.
> >>
> >> G.  Is there anything else you would like to add?
> >>
> >> Although we are a local, country based, chapter of a global association
> >> which is already a NCDNHC member, we feel we have good reasons to
> >> partecipate directly in the NCDNHC. If this is explictly barred by NCDNHC
> >> by-laws, or felt not convenient by a large number of other members of this
> >> constituency, please let us know.
> >>
> >> H.   To submit this membership form, you must send the above information to
> >> NCDNHC-Application@LYRIS.ISOC.ORG.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >--
> >Jeffrey A. Williams
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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