Re: [IFWP] Re: [ga] The North American DNSO BoD chair - [Attn. Becky Burr]

["Brian C. Hollingsworth" <bholling@ix.netcom.com>]

Jeff and Everybody,

  Yes Jeff it seems that both you and Mr. Langston have hit the
the nail on the head as you put it.  I fail to see Mr. Crispin's arguments
in a valid light, and seem to be bent towards some other "Agenda" that he
has yet to adequately reveal.  It appears that there has been some
laws broken here, which I will be looking into shortly, in the state of
california as well as some US Federal statutes under 1st amendment
as well.

Jeff Williams wrote:

> mark and all,
>
>   Well Mark it is pretty obvious, as kent's logic usually is, that
> he is mostly concerned that HIS candidate might not get elected.
> So therefore he as some others can justify any false argument
> of their perverted choosing.
>
>   But you have yet again hit the nail on the head here Mark.  Karl
> was only truing to do some "Outreach" as part of his volunteerism
> and at the same time doing a little "campaigning" as well.  Nothing
> wrong with that.  What IS wrong is the the DNSO Secretariat
> and the DNSO Admin.  have poorly handled this process as they
> have deliberately broken their own rules.
>
> Mark C. Langston wrote:
>
> > On 13 October 1999, Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >In Karl's particular case, it is the candidate himself who was
> > >engaged in "nomination stuffing".
> >
> > [...snip]
> >
> > Then the NC itself is guilty of this.  The Secretariat of the NC
> > sent out an announcement on 17 Sep 1999, that began:
> >
> >    [
> >    [ Sent to: ga@dnso.org, announce@dnso.org, council@dnso.org
> >    [          wg-b@dnso.org, wg-c@dnso.org, wg-d@dnso.org, wg-e@dnso.org
> >    [
> >    [ The members of the Names Council are requested to forward
> >    [ this announcement to the Constitiencies mailling lists
> >    [ in order to reach all DNSO General Assembly members.
> >    [
> >
> > In short, the NC via their Secretariat urged the NC members themselves
> > to go to each Constituency and do exactly what Karl did.  Why did
> > Karl do it?  Because ICANN steadfastly refuses to recognize any form
> > of an individual domain name owner's constituency.
> >
> > Further, the messsage stated:
> >
> >         The Names Council has resolved that a candidate, in order to
> >         be nominated must have the support of, at least, 10 members
> >         of the General Assembly. For this purpose, anybody who is
> >         subscribed to the General Assembly mailing list, the
> >         Announce mailing list or the list of one of the
> >         Constituencies of the DNSO is considered a member of the
> >         General Assembly. As the Annouce and General Assembly list
> >         are open, anybody wishing to participate in the nomination
> >         process may subscribe to one of these lists and be
> >         considered a member of the General Assembly.
> >
> > ...here, the Secretariat explicitly directs people to subscribe to the
> > GA list, then participate in the vote.  This is exactly what you're
> > accusing Karl of, except that Karl knew he was a candidate, and
> > was requesting support for himself.
> >
> > Most people call this "campaigning".
> >
> > (the entire announcement may be found at:
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Archives/msg00655.html )
> >
> > It's also interesting that even the beginning of the message assumes
> > that the GA is broader than the original definition accepted in San
> > Jose.  But that's another discussion, in a different post.
> >
> > --
> > Mark C. Langston
> > mark@bitshift.org
> > Systems Admin
> > San Jose, CA
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
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Regretfully,

--
Brian C. Hollingsworth
Sr. Legal Advisor, International House of Justice Internet
Communications  Affairs and Policy
Advisory council for Public Affairs and Internet Policy, European
Union