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Re: [Membership] membership votes domain names INTEGRITY

Steve et al,

BRPWIT@aol.com wrote:

> Russ et al:
> Your response to me on domain name appropriateness, control, freedom of speech
> got me to thinking instead of reacting to your negative message.
> Policies need to be re-thought of who members are, how they are allowed to
> vote, how names are issued ,etc, etc,etc.

  Any and all stakeholders are members or have the right to become members.
Is this concept so difficult to grasp?  If so, how so?

> We keep talking of individual votes, corporate blocks, e-mail owners, domain
> owners, regional blocks, cyberspace weenies and so on.

  E-Mail is one method of identifying a potential member or a member
potentially identifying him or herself.  Domain Name Owners or stakeholders
that are also Domain Name owners.

> Have we identified the Issues that need to be resolved and controlled?

Until we have a membership model that the majority can live with, these issues
are premature.  However today Esther Dyson and the ICANN Interim Board,
have taken preemptive steps today and in the recent past to decide some of
these issues for us already.  We find this to be improper and in direct
violation of the requirements of the White Paper.

> I don't
> think we have as of yet. This is critical. If we don't know what we want to
> solve and control, how can we decide organizational structures, authorities,
> etc>?
> Please: look at the discussions- Domain Names, Freedom of speech, ownership ,
> regional vs cyber, etc. Even in this great democracy we do NOT allow majority
> vote to automatically rule everything. If we did their would be no minority
> rights ( that may be what you are after) but it needs to be identified and
> expalined.
> Russ: as i have stated- I want no part of a single organization controlling
> everything- that smacks of the book 1984. in fact in the San fernado valley we
> are trying to separate from LA because it is too big and we are the left outs.

  Agreed completely.

> You want freedom of speech, Russ, I want that as well. However, responibility
> and integrity goes along with having this freedom.

 Agreed completely and those responsibilities and level of integrity should
be determined by the Membership.  Until that membership is in place those
decisions cannot be made.

> Et Al: Their are many purveyors of "information" that would choose to take
> DOMAIN NAMES that the vast majority would find abhorrent let alone names that
> could be used to attack various groups of people. I am not allowed to swear or
> use foul language in these communications - why should someone be allowed to
> use them in Domain names.

  The reason is that the owners of this list do not believe in freedom of speech.

> Lets identify the problems - then decide who and how they will be authorized.

  This is backwards.  First you have to have a process for making decisions
than you can start to collectively making decisions.

> As I send we have our freedoms and laws - vastly different than many other
> palces - why should one group of PAID PEOPLE decide who and how the internet
> will work.

  Whom are these PAID PEOPLE to which you refer.  The only one that I know of
that is paid on the ICANN Interim BOard presently in the CEO Mike Roberts.

> Glad to see that you recognize that their are some VALUE ADDED Businesses that
> utilize Domain names in a responsible way.

  Define a responsible way that is expectable to everyone and is decided
BY everyone that is a stakeholder.

> thanks steve witkin


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