ICANN participation

Jeez, how's this for consideration. If you have to *call and remind* ALAC
members to vote on a matter the entire ALAC has declared to be important and
which has been circulated too many times out of memory, then I submit we
have a larger problem. It just seems awry, not to mention grossly unfair,
to ask some members, all of whom are volunteers, to work so hard while
others are hardly working!

With regard to the RAA, the ALAC has made several submissions, some of which
repeat language I have used in my own postings on the matter.
Notwithstanding, I will reiterate my perspective.

For everyone who are involved in the ICANN end users and ALAC family, my best wishes for this hollidays.
Merry Christmas and happy New Year!!!!

Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to.

At 11:07 AM -0500 12/16/08, Brendler, Beau wrote:
>Adam...
>
>I am hoping we are going ahead with a call on
>Friday at the time Mathias specified.

Beau, thanks. I saw Matthias' email -- sent
after I asked the question. Call information
below.

Best,

Adam

Dear all,

Thank you for submitting your availability for
the discussion on the At-Large position on the
new gTLD Applicant Guidebook. To ensure that Beau
and Alan can participate, I suggest that we have
the discussion this coming Friday, 19 December at
1400 UTC.

Following are pointers to a presentation to be
given at this coming Thursday's GNSO meeting, the
GNSO Agenda where it will be discussed, and the
Issue report requested by the ALAC.

Alan

>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:59:58 -0800
>From: Glen de Saint Géry
>Subject: GNSO Issues Report on Post-Expiration Domain Name Recovery
> presentation posted
>To: Alan Greenberg
>
>Dear Alan,
>
>Could you please distribute this on the ALAC lists for information.
>
>Thanks so much.
>Glen
>
>Please find a power point presentation of the
>
>GNS

URL is bad!
CAS

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Alan Greenberg
wrote:

>
> For those who may be interested, I have posted some personal comments on
>> the Mid-point report. They can be found at
>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/alac-mid-consult/pdfPFEQnmaKJl.pdf.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>
> Thanks to Dharma Dailey who pointed out that the attachment has moved.
>
> That *was* where it lived when I posted the message.

For those who may be interested, I have posted some personal comments
on the Mid-point report. They can be found at
http://forum.icann.org/lists/alac-mid-consult/pdfPFEQnmaKJl.pdf.

Alan

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I put my comments on a different wiki page which also claims to be the
ALAC response:

Regarding points 10 and 11, I think the case is overstated.

Dear all,

Those of you who have already accessed the vote on the RAA package have probably realized that the options in the online vote are slightly different from the ones presented in the email. That's is because I originally used an older draft, which now has been updated.

(Revised to correct typo.)

Wendy, I don't know what time the Board meeting is, but hope that
this reaches you before...

The ALAC has already made a number of statements on the role of users
on the GNSO, and none of them (in our minds) conflict or even greatly
overlap with the roles of the ALAC. These statements stand. In
essence, the differentiator between someone (or group) that is at
home in At-Large vs one who should live in the GNSO is not based on
the description of the user (or user group), but rather on their
specific interests.

Hello,
That a strange way to talk about ALSs Summit
6. Report on the ALAC Conference in Mexico City

Sébastien Bachollet
...
sebastien.bachollet@isoc.fr
www.egeni.org
www.isoc.fr

Attached is the Issues Report request by the ALAC two weeks ago.

Alan

Dear All, I made a preliminary report with information about my Dot Mobi
Position.

It´s available at: HYPERLINK
"https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?dotMOBI%20Liaison%20Report"https://st.i
cann.org/alac/index.cgi?dotMOBI%20Liaison%20Report# in both languages.

Regards,

Dear Rob:

It is our pleasure to advise you of the appointees from At-Large to the
Geographic Regions Working Group:

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (ALAC Chair): cheryl@hovtek.com.au
Carlton Samuels (LACRALO Secretariat): carlton.samuels@uwimona.edu.jm

Dear friends

To all of you thanksgiving is an important date, I wish a peaceful day
with the warm presence of all you love!

Vanda Scartezini

Polo Consultores Associados

Alameda Santos 1470 #1407

Tel - +55113266.6253

Mob- +55118181.1464

vanda@uol.com.br

P Before print think about the Environment

"The information contained in this message - and attached files - is
restricted, and its confidentiality protected by law. If you are not the
intended recipient, please delete this message and notify the sender
immediately.

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Here are formally worded motions which I believe capture the intent
of the discussion at the meeting just ended. If I have erred, please correct.

Alan

Over the past day, there has been a discussion about steps forward
with respect to the RAA amendments on the NA-discuss list as well as
the ALAC list. There has also been at least some mis-information.

I have tried to summarize the current situation in preparation for
tomorrow's ALAC teleconference.

Dear All: This topic was touched in Cairo at Open Forum and I believe is neccesary (like said Norbert Klein) more discussion about it.

http://public.icann.org/en/node/2007

ICANN's geographical diversity

Submitted by YoungEum on Thu, 2008-11-06 11:26.

This is the text of my comment during the Cairo public forum.
ICANN's core value #4 focuses on geographic and cultural diversity at all levels of policy development and decision-making. This value has been repeatedly emphasized in the DoC's midterm review of the JPA as well.

Dear Members,

In response to Board resolutions 2008.11.07.08 and 2008.11.07.09 (attached
below) the At-Large community is being asked to provide representatives to
the Working Group on Geographic Regions.

The ALAC is expected to address this issue in its teleconference of
tomorrow; those interested in being one of the representatives may wish to
let the ALAC know of the interest ASAP.

The request for the Issues Report has now formally been submitted. I
have added an item to the Nov 25th ALAC meeting reporting on the
relatively minor changes since the vote in Cairo.

Has the agenda been published?

Could we please have it posted (i.e. email) in good time before the
meeting.

Is there some reason that we do not allow formatted text in mailing list mail?

For instance, the work "formatted" above was in bold when sent.

Alan
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Following a discussion among the ALAC Chair, the two Vice Chairs and
myself, I am making a motion on behalf of the four of us that the
Ex-Com be formalized (since it is not currently mentioned in our
Rules of Procedure), and that it be expanded to include one member
from each of the five ICANN regions.

The motion has been added to our agenda for November 25 as an item
for decision at that meeting - see
https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?25_november_2008.

For your convenience, the background and motion are included here.

-----------------------
Formalization of the Execut

As you all know, I have taken on the role of ALAC Rapporteur.
According to our Rules of Procedure, the role is defined as
"An independent critical friend; a person acting as a monitor to
processes, who is responsible on behalf of the committee to ensure
correct process have been carried out."

Since this description is pretty open, I have put together a short
list of things that I would like to try to accomplish in the first 6
months.

Dear all,

It was decided at the ALAC meeting on 5 November that the election period
for the open ALAC liaison position shall start within 48 after the close of
the ICANN Cairo Meeting. The following liaisons have already been confirmed
by the ALAC as they stood unopposed for their respective positions:

Alan Greenberg (GNSO)
Beau Brendler (NCUC)
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy (IDN Policy)

An online vote will be held for the positions of ccNSO, SSAC and dotMOBI
Advisory Board liaisons.

I am now at the airport lounge, using wi-fi and reading the Board live
scribes,
and reglet that I am not there, reading the Board discussion about
the next Asian meeting venue.

I echo - Sydney is a great place to go, but but but
we better pay much more attention to the balance of cultures.

izumi

--
>> Izumi Aizu <<

Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo

Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
Japan
* * * * *
<< Writing the Future of the

--

With the At-Large users summit planning underway, a public space should be used to engage and promote the event. Let me propose that ICANNWiki, the public and well known ICANN wiki site be used as a resource for our planning.

We have used ICANNwiki in the past for several at-large activities and meetings. The staff and people behind the ICANNwiki have been very supportive and it has been a great experience to work with them.

Due to prior obligations, I will have to leave tomorrow morning, but
will catch up with the minutes and scribe feeds online. I have been
participating in the Board workshop discussions earlier in the week
and will continue via email conversation. I have asked the Board
whether they have questions about the At Large Summit, on the agenda
below (although it is listed for action, I do not believe the Board
has been asked to take action).

This looks like a great opportunity for the At-large community in general
and the ALAC in particular to do some outreach. This is very usefuI for all
of us.

Dear friends,

Thank you for sharing these last several years with me. Your fellowship has provided enrichment in many ways; technical, political, cultural.
I can assure you that the struggles in which we have engaged continue. I am no less committed to them and will continue to engage. We have had some successes in setting up an at-large infrastructure that if properly sustained – by us and the ICANN community in general – can in fact deliver on the promise of an ICANN that is truly participatory and focused on the public and userŽs interest.

I want to thank Alan for a carefully prepared and well argued document.
This kind of evidence-based argument is a strong contribution to policy
development.

(I can't find it online, unless at
)

--Wendy
--
Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org
Visiting Professor, American University Washington College of Law
Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html
http://www.chillingeffects.org/
https://www.torproject.org/

_______________________________

ALAC members,

I welcome the opportunity to convey policy interests and positions from
the At Large to the Board.

Dear All:

We have captured the list of nominations and seconds for ALAC Liaisons and
Appointments on the wiki ­ this is accessible at
https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?alac_liaisons_for_2009.

The Chair has previously announced that nominations shall close on 1200 UTC
on Wednesday 4th November.

For those nominated, may I presume that you wish to use your biographical
information from http://www.icann.org/en/committees/alac/?

If we receive no objections we will post links to the bios above tomorrow.
--
Regards,

Nick Ashton-Hart
Director for At-Large
Internet Corporatio

Dear all,

It was decided that the 3rd ALAC meeting would start 30 minutes earlier than
originally scheduled. New starting time is 1030 tomorrow.

Dear all,
We had morning meeting and also another discussion from 3:30 pm to 4:15 pm
today,
and here follows is the edited version of the current draft. There were some
7 or 8 people,
at least for these two meetings and we had, at least, "rough" consensus on
most of
the texts, if not in details and wordings. I added, using the "Editor's
privilege", some
phrases to the one displayed in the room.

Of course, this is not nowhere near "final". Please express your comments
and
suggestions to all points.

* Opening (Tricia - 5 mins)
> * The journey so far
> * Key points to cover today
>> * Voting
>> * Moving resources to the edge
>> * Very happy to cover other issues as well
* Overview of issues to do with voting (Thomas and Harald - 5 mins)
* Overview of issues to do with moving resources to the edge (Nii ­ 5 mins)
* Open microphone
* Closing comments from Cheryl, Vanda, [African At Large member], [Asian At
Large member], [local At Large member] (5 mins)
* Thanks and next steps (Tricia - 2 mins)

I am seeking clarification about the at-large members in the second-to-last
i

Dear Colleagues:
Based on the feedback and various discussions, I present this text hereunder
as a representative draft response:

"The ALAC welcomes the recommendation of the BGC that the ALAC is allocated
two (2) seats on the ICANN Board.

Note a small change in the text at the final sentence....
Carlton

Dear Colleagues:
Based on the feedback and various discussions, I present this text hereunder
as a representative draft response:

"The ALAC welcomes the recommendation of the BGC that the ALAC is allocated
two (2) seats on the ICANN Board.

Dear Members:

As there was a discussion of a model for non-commercial and Internet
end-user engagement in the GNSO with the NCUC yesterday, I thought you might
find the email below of interest.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Denise Michel
Date: Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:20 AM
Subject: Constituency Renewal
To: liaison6c

Constituency Leaders:

As you know, the ICANN Board, among its various decisions during the August
and October meetings, directed existing GNSO Constituencies to confirm their
status with the Bo

Dear Members:

I had a brief conversation with Pierre earlier today.

Resumen de lo sucedido en la primera reunión de ALAC llevado a cabo en el
marco de la 33ra reunión de ICANN celebrada en El Cairo el 2 de noviembre
de 2008

Antes de empezar se debe señalar que la traducción al español es terrible,
la peor en todos los meetings de ICANN a los que hayamos asistido. La
reunión empezó a las 9 de la mañana.

La reunión se inicio discutiendo el informe del grupo de trabajo para la
revisión de ALAC. EL informe contiene reflexiones relacionadas con el
informe presentado por Westlake.

Dear AtLarge, here is my first few para for the Second part of our response
to the Board
Governance Working Group Report on AtLarge Review.
*

On Effectiveness and participation
*
*4. Educating and engaging the ALSs should be an immediate priority;
compliance should be a longer term goal.
*
We agree that there is a good room to improve the participation of ALSs in
our RALO and AtLarge activities.

Dear All:

Somewhat belatedly, we can announce the publication of the September 2008
statistics as they relate to the ALAC Rule 21 performance obligations of
members and ALAC Liaisons.

The information may be found at
http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/alac/performance.htm
--
Regards,

Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Marie-Helene Bouchoms
ICANN At-Large Staff
email: staff@atlarge.icann.org

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At-Larg

Sorry
This didn't go to the list, so resending
JAM
Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
> Hi Patrick
> One very important thing to note is that individual internet users are
> different from individuals acting as businesses, academia, etc. My
> role as an academic at work is very different from my personal
> internet user life - my concerns are different. As an individual, I
> may have an Internet-related business. So my concerns may align in
> that role with the Business constituency, and not with the individual
> internet user.

I am tasked with coming up with a position on the relationship with
other entities, and particularly, the fact that ALAC should or not be
the only entity to represent individual internet users.

The summary is as follows. There is a clearly two perceptions. Comments
welcome.

----------------------

1. ALAC should be the sole representative. If there are different
groups, the voice of end users may actually be diluted, because these
groups may not come up with similar positions.

I have posted my report of the 16 October 2008 GNSO Council
meetingwith the Cairo documents at
https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?cairo_documents.

Alan

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Just released. The issues was discussed in my GNSO Liaison report for
the Oct. 14 meeting -
https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?gnso_liaison_report_01_10_2008.

Alan

>Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:03:49 -0700
>From: Marika Konings
>Subject: [council] Issues Report on Registration Abuse Policies
>To: "council@gnso.icann.org"
>
>Dear All,
>
>As requested by the GNSO Council, please find attached the Issues
>Report on Registration Abuse Policies.
>
>With best regards,
>
>Marika

I am way behind on my e-mail, and I am not sure
if this has already been relayed to the ALAC. I
call your attention specifically to the first
item. We have previously taken a strong position
that the user perspective should be represented
in some way through the Non-Commercial Users
Stakeholders Group on the GNSO.

Dear Members:

For your information, attached please find the current agenda for the Board
meeting on 7th November in Cairo.

Dear Members:

We have revised the Cairo Documents page to (hopefully) contain references
to all the relevant documents for the main areas of work during Cairo.