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Tell him "Enough!", Ms. Van Houweling

Ms. Van Houweling-

I see by your recent post (attachment #1) that you have not taken to
heart my admonitions (#2) to prevent yourself from being used for
undemocratic and illegal purposes . 

Why did you send your message regarding the post-Berlin organization
of the NCDNHC to Educause? According to many people, including Mike
Roberts himself, Educause is not involved directly in this process
except as one among many non-commercial organizations all having a
right to membership in the NCDNHC. In a public posting on Tue, 9 Feb
1999, Mike Roberts wrote:

   "My job at ICANN is to be the interim CEO who gets the company
   functioning in all its working aspects,  under direction
   from the Board.  I am not an advocate, and I am specifically
   not the author of any policies other than those adopted by
   the Board.  If you see evidence to the contrary, please call
   me on it."

and in a posting on Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Marilyn Cade wrote:

   "Mike Roberts has no existing relationship to Educause.",

indicative of the general attempt, on the part of those who profit
from Mike Robert's and the Board's partiality, to obfuscate the

Your post seems to reveal the opposite from what the above
statements would lead us to believe, that is, it corroborates the
truth that I tried to point out in my post of 5/4/99 (3, below), to
the effect that Michael Roberts was not chosen as interim ICANN
president because he is "not representative of any particular
stakeholder group", as Joe Sims said under oath to the House, but
for just the opposite reason, that is, to promote the interests of
Educause, including the take-over of the Non-Commercial Domain Name
Holders Constituency in collaboration with ISOC. 

On Sun, 2 May 1999, I asked Mr. Roberts how much more of this
favoritism and prejudicial behavior he intended to subject the
Internet community to:

Subject: How much more?
From: Michael Sondow <msondow@iciiu.org>
To: Michael Roberts <roberts@icann.org>, ICANN <comments@icann.org>

Mr. Roberts-

Your organization, EDUCAUSE, has come out in support of one of the
constituency organizers, ISOC. Yet you are the President of the
organization being formed, ICANN. Is this, to your way of thinking,
a democratic process?

Furthermore, your employee Molly Van Houweling has given ISOC a full
website to itself, to spread its deceit and tyranny, like excluding
individuals from the Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders
Constituency. Is this blatant favoritism in the use of your website
your idea of democracy?

Your recent posting, Ms. Van Houweling, about the post-Berlin
organization of the NCDNHC suggests that Mr. Roberts will, with your
assistance, subject us to yet more prejudice in regard to the
contested Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency. 

Hadn't you better tell him "Enough!, Ms. Van Houweling?

Michael Sondow

International Congress of Independent Internet Users (ICIIU) 
        http://www.iciiu.org       iciiu@iciiu.org 

To: burack@isoc.org, heath@isoc.org, mueller@syr.edy, msondow@iciiu.org
From: Molly Shaffer Van Houweling <msvh@icann.org>
Subject: DNSO constituency update
Cc: mluker@educause.edu, roberts@icann.org, edyson@edventure.com

Dear ICANN Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency organizers,

FYI, today ICANN adopted the resolution pasted below.  The Board is anxious
to receive a consensus proposal for the non-commercial domain name holders
constituency and we look forward to an update on your progress.

From: Michael Sondow <msondow@iciiu.org>
To: ICANN <comments@icann.org>, Molly Van Houweling <msvh@icann.org>

Ms. Van Houweling-

Allowing people who do not belong to a constituency to fill its
meeting room and disrupt its organizational process is not having
"helped arrange meeting space for open meetings for all of the
initial constituency groups".

As an operative of the unelected board, you are manipulating a
situation so as to favor the unqualified, uncredentialed usurpers of
a constituency that the board created, the only one left through
which the non-commercial users of the Internet can have an effective
voice in the DNSO. The board has consistently used undemocratic
tactics to deprive the users of the Internet a place in the new
Internet governance authority. They have made no constituency for
individuals, and are now conspiring with ISOC to remove even the
non-commercial constituency from its rightful members. 

You, personally, have allowed yourself to be tricked into believing
that you have the power to deny the non-commercial sector of the
Internet a say in its future. This is obviously not going to happen,
and you will at some point, when the non-commercial users of the
Internet finally become aware of what is being done to them, be held
accountable for excluding them from a place in this Internet

If you think clearly, you will see that I am right. You would do
well, for your own sake, to consider very carefully what the
eventual consequences of allowing yourself to be used for an
unpopular and undemocratic purpose could be.

And by the way, if you will stop doing things that you feel ashamed
of, you can stop worrying about the people on this list reading your

>Molly Shaffer Van Houweling a écrit:
> We have helped arrange meeting space for open meetings for all of 
> the initial constituency groups.  (One group has elected to meet at 
> another nearby hotel, but that meeting will also be open.)

At 12:56 AM 5/21/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Molly Shaffer Van Houweling a écrit:
>> ICANN has reserved the room referred to below for the use of anyone who is
>> interested in discussing the formation of the Non-commercial Domain Name
>> Holders Constituency.  The room will be open to the public without 
>Esther Dyson wrote:
>> Thanks, Molly!
>Does this apply only to the NCDNHC, or to all the constituency
>meetings? Are you playing favorites, protecting some organizers and
>prejudicing others?
>Are you suggesting that persons who are not non-commercial domain
>name holders are to be allowed to join this constituency? Are you
>saying that they can take over the meeting from the legitimate
>non-commercial domain name holders, even deny us membership in our
>own constituency, with your assistance?
>If this is true, you are digging a very deep hole for yourselves
>here. It will take you the rest of your lives to crawl out of it.
>You have created a constituency and defined its membership by naming
>it. Are you now going to give it to those it doesn't belong to? Do
>you comprehend fully the implications and consequences?
>Do the other members of the ICANN board want to have their names
>associated with this? Think it over carefully. There will be
>consequences, sooner or later. Those of you who have careers to
>think of and reputations to protect would be wise to consider very
>carefully indeed depriving us, the legitimate members, of our
>constituency. This is something that will not stop here, of that I
>can assure you.
>> At 10:05 AM 5/20/99 -0400, msondow@ICIIU.ORG wrote:
>> >To: All persons wishing to participate in the first organizational
>> >meeting of the Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency in
>> >the Kaminzimmer Room of the Hotel Adlon on the morning of May 25th.
>> >
>> >
>> >Due to the fact that the Kaminzimmer Room is small and able to seat
>> >comfortably no more than fifty persons, attendance at the meeting
>> >will be limited to holders of non-commercial domain names only. All
>> >such persons intending to participate are requested to bring with
>> >them proof of their domain name, in the form of a current invoice
>> >from Network Solutions with the name of the participant on it.
>> >
>> >In the case of organizations wishing to join as such, one
>> >spokesperson for the organization should be designated and provided
>> >with a statement, signed by an officer of the organization, that he
>> >or she is delegated to act in its name. These statements together
>> >with the a copy of the current invoice for the organization's
>> >non-commercial domain name will be presented at the door to gain
>> >admittance.
>> >
>> >============================================================
>> >International Congress of Independent Internet Users (ICIIU)
>> >        http://www.iciiu.org       iciiu@iciiu.org
>> >============================================================

Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 00:19:07 -0400
From: Michael Sondow <msondow@iciiu.org>
To: Joe Sims <Joe_Sims@jonesday.com>, ICANN <comments@icann.org>

Mr. Sims-

In the Supplemental Questions posed by the Joint Subcommittees on
Basic Research and Technology, pursuant to the hearing on October 2,
1998, in which you were a witness, you were asked:" Please explain
how ICANN's interim board was established." You replied: "...Dr.
Postel concluded that the most likely way to create an interim board
that could obtain consensus support was to seek out highly qualified
people who were specifically not representatives of any particular
stakeholder group."

Are you unaware that Michael Roberts, the current President of ICANN
and apparent leader and chief policy-maker of its board of
directors, was a founding director of ISOC, as well as the director
of Educause, which is supporting ISOC in its bid to dominate the
Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders constituency of the DNSO?

Could you tell us, please, in what way Mr. Roberts fulfills Jon
Postel's and presumably your criterion for serving on the interim
board of ICANN, that is, not being a representative of a particular
stakeholder group?